How large are the support networks for ‘British’ jihadis?

Manuel the bungling waiter from Fawlty Towers doing a convincing impression of how Britain’s Islamic communities and families react when Jihadis are found to be operating.

The Commissioner of London’s Metropolitan Police, Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe, has told a meeting that the number of Jihadis who have travelled from the UK to fight for Islamo-fascist groups like ISIS is greater than the Security Service and other agencies had initially estimated. Figures in the media put out by the police and MI5 state that there are 500 Islamic jihadis from Britain fighting for Islamic extremist groups in places like Syria and Iraq.

Sir Bernard was reported by the Daily Mail newspaper as saying that 5 jihadis per week were leaving Britain to fight overseas and the return of these terrorists poses a security problem for Britain.

The Daily Mail said:

The Metropolitan Police Commissioner admitted that the return of militarised jihadis to the streets of the UK posed a threat. More than 500 Britons are believed to have gone to Syria to fight, half of whom may have returned.

But police believe that number will leap by 50 per cent within a year, despite the deaths of up to 30 British jihadis in the fighting and outrage at IS’s beheading of British aid workers Alan Henning and David Haines.

Sir Bernard told the National Security Summit in London: ‘Five a week doesn’t sound much but when you realise there are 50-odd weeks in a year, 250 more would be 50 per cent more than we think have gone already.

Those numbers are a minimum. There may be many more who set out to travel to another country and meandered over to Syria and Iraq in a way that is not always possible to spot when you have failed states and leaky borders.’

Sir Bernard has backed plans to hand police the power to seize passports if they suspect Britons are travelling abroad to fight with terror groups.”

Unfortunately, it is very possible that Sir Bernard is seriously underestimating the scale of the problem with Islamic sedition and terror. He only appears to be counting the actual fighters and those who are directly assisting them. When you add in the Imams who turn a blind eye to Jihadists in their mosques and the families of Jihadists who may suspect that relatives may be going to join up with Islamo-fascists, but who say nothing to the authorities, then the problem looks a whole lot worse than merely 250 more fighters.

Yesterday this blog published the welcome news that another Islamo-fascist has been killed whilst fighting in Syria. There are aspects of this case that require closer examination because it gives rise to suspicions that the support networks for these jihadis may be wider than generally accepted. A spokesperson for the Portsmouth mosque with which the latest dead jihadi was connected with gave a statement on the latest jihadi death that was reported in the local newspaper for Porsmouth, The Portsmouth News like this:

Jami mosque committee chairman Abdul Jalil said the Muslim community was shocked to hear reports of the young man’s death.

He said that there had also been reports that a fourth man from Portsmouth was ill in hospital in Syria.

Mr Jalil said: ‘We are very worried. They are on the front line. Five people went there and three have been killed.’

He added: ‘It is a very big shock for their parents and we are working with the community to make sure that [something like this] does not happen again.

We are working with the police, the crime prevention team and the council to warn people, our youngsters especially, telling them not to go to Syria and also to get parents to watch their children.’

Why is that whenever a Jihadi is killed the Imams and the local mosque community are always ‘shocked’ and act as if this jihad thing was nothing at all to do with Islam? Are they saying less than they really know about what is going on? 

What about this next case where police in Crawley raided the homes of those suspected of being friends with another dead jihadi. This was another situation where not only did senior Islamic community leaders not know what was going on, but also whined incessantly about the police action. See this story from the Brighton Argus:

Tensions “are high” among the Muslim community in Crawley following reports up to five properties are being searched in relation to the suspected Crawley suicide bomber.

Police and South East Counter Terrorism officers have been at a second property in Langley Green this morning (Thursday) in what is believed to be part of the inquiry.

South East Counter Terrorism officers are understood to be at a home in St Joan Close, just around the corner from the property where Abdul Waheed Majid and his family lived in Martyrs Avenue.

Counter terrorism officers searched his home yesterday (Wednesday) in connection with a suicide bombing in the Syrian city of Aleppo last week, which he is suspected of carrying out.

Now a spokesman for the Muslim community in Crawley has said more properties are thought to be being searched today.

Arif Syed, chairman of Crawley Mosque and a spokesman for the town’s Muslim community, said: “As I understand there is one property being searched in Langley Drive, one in St Joans Close, but I’m also being told that there will be further searches carried out.

“These people are being kicked out of their homes  and the police have the audacity to ask us to house them at the mosque while they carry out their searches.

“It’s a witchhunt. The public are going ballistic.

“The Muslim community are absolutely outraged by this – tensions are very high.

“They are all friends of Mr Majeed, I’m a friend of Mr Majeed, this is such a tight-knit community here.

“We are all set to meet tomorrow at the mosque and I already know that the temperature will be high.”

Yes, this is another example of how a supposedly close knit Islamic community knew nothing about Jihad activities within their midst. Do you believe this, because I don’t.

Or what about the situation in Wales where there has been a significant amount of Salafist activity that was not exposed by local mosque leaders, but by the news that local Muslims who had been killed fighting jihad were radicalised in Welsh mosques. In this case Muslims from both the local and national Islamic scene tried to play down the threat from Salafist theology as evidenced by this piece in the Wales Online news source:

THE ultra-conservative strand of Islam followed by the three young Cardiff men seen on a jihad-recruiting video from Syria has been growing in popularity in Wales.

Up to six Welsh mosques are now part of the Islamic movement known as Salafism, including Cardiff’s Al-Manar centre, where Nasser Muthana, 20, Assel Muthana, 17, and Reyaad Khan, 20, are said to have worshipped.

There is disagreement within Islamic communities in the UK as to the extent to which the growth of Salafism is a concern.

The teachings of Salafism are conservative and impose severe restrictions on everything from women’s rights to music.

Haras Rafiq, of counter-extremism group the Quilliam Foundation, said the Salafi sect covers a broad spectrum of Islam.

While some followers include jailed radical Abu Hamza and terror suspect Abu Qatada others have opposed Al-Qaeda.

Mr Rafiq, himself a Muslim, said: “The theology used to recruit these guys has its roots very much in Salafi jihadism. So we can’t say all Salafi mosques believe in Salafi jihadism, but they do hold views that can lead people to go down that path.”

As well as regressive attitudes to women, Salafism, the spread of which is funded by billions in petro-dollars from the Middle East, teaches democracy is a sin and death to those who change faiths.

Mr Rafiq said that jihaids like the Muthana brothers were usually motivated by a mix of politics and religion.

Politically they want an Islamic state and underpin their commitment to the cause through a narrow strand of Salafism.

However, the General Secretary of the Muslim Council of Wales Saleem Kidwai said that Salafism should not be seen as a threat and is part of every Muslim’s faith.

He said: “What Salafi denotes is ‘the people who follow the prophet and his companions’. So strictly speaking every Muslim is supposed to follow the prophet and his companions.”

Mr Kidwai said the decision to invite the controversial Saudi Arabian cleric Mr Al-Arifi to preach at the Al Manar Centre in Cardiff, despite the fact he is banned in Switzerland, did not constitute proof that Al-Manar had radicalised the Cardiff trio.

He said the cleric could not represent a serious threat because he was given a visa by the UK Government.

Al-Arifi is described as a radical Sunni Muslim cleric who has referred to rival Shias as “evil”.

Cardiff Islamic lecturer Hassan Abdi also said that Salafism was not itself a problem.

He said the Salafi Bookstore in Cardiff has been at the forefront of countering extremism for around ten years and has producied a leaflet on “community cohesion”.

He also suggested Cardiff’s Salafis were the first to warn Muslims about the resurgence of Islamist militant Omar Bakri, who headed Al-Muhajiroun and described the Madrid train bombings of 2004 as “revenge”.

Innes Bowen, an expert on Britain’s Muslims and the author of Medina in Birmingham, Najaf in Brent, vouched for the figures on the muslimsinbritain.org website which suggests there are six mosques in Wales that are part of the Salafist movement.

The same sort of guff that emanates from the mouths of Islamic spokespersons is also seen in some of the statements from the friends and families of those jihadis who are killed. You often here phrases like: ‘we didn’t know he was going to fight’, ‘we thought he was going to help aid workers’, ‘we are shocked’, ‘didn’t know that he was getting radicalised’, ‘he was a good boy really’ etc etc etc. It is almost as if they are getting these phrases from a script in the Big Book of Islamic Bullshit. If Islamic families and communities are so close-knit and so cohesive, then why do so many of those who know these jihadis, or worship with them, or teach them claim to not know what they are up to? It is difficult to escape the conclusion that many of these families and many of these mosques know enough about what is going on to be aware that members of their families and communities are fighting with the Islamo-fascists overseas.

These families and communities who know what is happening but deny all knowledge of it to the police, the security services and the media make up the hidden support structure that assists these jihadis to get radicalised, travel to conflict zones and obfuscate when the activities of the jihadis are exposed. They are as much a part of the problem as the individual jihadi with a gun. Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe has said that there are 750 jihadis fighting in places like Syria and Iraq and if only two persons in each case know what the jihadis are up to (I cannot believe that these Jihadis keep completely schtum about what they are doing), that means we have in the United Kingdom 1500 people who are acting as active and passive supporters of the sort of Islamic fascism that has shot, raped, beheaded and crucified it’s way across the Middle East.

It is not just the active jihadis that we need to be concerned about, it is also about those who assist them, fund them, lie for them and say nothing about them, that should make the authorities and the average non-Muslim Briton very worried indeed. Just think about that 1500 figure for a moment because it means that at the present time we have many hundreds of active traitors to the UK living amongst us, and working against us. This is not a pleasant or safe situation for us all to be in.

Links

Portsmouth News article

http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/defence/shock-as-third-portsmouth-jihadi-fighter-is-killed-in-conflict-1-6369024

Article from Fahrenheit211 on the Portsmouth jihadi’s death in Syria

https://www.fahrenheit211.net/2014/10/21/good-news-another-portsmouth-based-british-jihadi-dead/


Brighton jihadi story from the Brighton Argus.

http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/11009221.Tensions__high__among_Crawley_Muslim_community_as_police_search_properties_linked_to_alleged_suicide_bomber/

Wales Online article about Jihadists in Wales

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/salafi-islam-linked-three-cardiff-7326906