From Elsewhere: When vegan products are not good for the environment or for people.

 

Normally I do not care much about what people choose to eat. What people eat is very much a personal choice and my main concern is that I and my family are not forced to eat that which is either hateful, disgusting or forbidden to us for religious reasons. Unfortunately there are a lot of vegans out there who believe that they do have a right to tell people what they should and should not eat. Some vegan activists, such as those from the group Milk Pour, have even gone so far as to go into high end supermarkets such as Waitrose and pour dairy milk on the floor as part of a dubious and wasteful protest against the dairy industry.

These militant and often very much middle class vegan activists make a number of questionable or even easily debunked claims about the benefits of plant based ‘milks’ whilst they are doing damage to and wasting dairy milk products during their protests. Some of the claims that these vegan militants make are based around a belief that somehow vegan milk substitutes are better for the environment and better for health.

The farmer and writer John Lewis-Stempel has waded into the claims made by vegan activists about milk substitutes in an article in Unherd magazine. What he has found is that not only are many of the claims about the environmental and health benefits of milk substitutes are wrong but that many of these milk substitutes are over processed and come from massive and very wealthy food companies.

On the subject of the environmental damage that almond milks create Mr Lewis-Stempel said:

While the media obligingly laps up the Milk Pour stunts, the heads of the alt-milk firms must feel like fat cats who have got all the synthetic cream. The protests are a convenient diversion from the crass environmental profile of their own products, now drunk by one in three Britons, and worth £400 million a year. Take almond milk. Or maybe not, if you value biodiversity — hell, even if you even fancy a drink of water. Industrialised almond agriculture requires five litres of the blue stuff to produce a single nut. A litre of almond milk drink requires 158 litres of water, or 20 times as much as dairy.

The author added that a rush to capitalise on the almond milk market by Californian farmers has caused drought and desertification and almond trees having to be dug up due to a lack of water with which to grow them. Also in order to get a commercially viable crop of almonds for almond milk the trees have to be kept in environments that require very aggressive weed suppression which means that massive levels of glyphosate weedkiller is needed. This has devastated California’s bee population meaning that bees have to be imported to California in order to pollinate crops. These imported bees often die from the weedkiller needed to grow almonds for the almond milk so beloved of the vegan militants.

There’s also a lot of money to be made out of exploiting the idiocies of the vegan movement. In the case of one of the big alt milk brands Oatly, Mr Lewis-Stempel continued:

People are getting rich off the faux white stuff. Although Oatly promotes itself as a folksy, right-on, climate-change-busting start-up, it is a $2 billion business, the world’s largest oat milk company. Top investors include that well-known friend of the people Goldman Sachs, and the equity group Blackstone. According to Bloomberg, the CEO of Blackstone, Stephen Schwarzman, donated $3.7 million to Super Pac America First Nation, which supported the reelection of Donald Trump.

So buying some oat based milk substitutes as these vegan activists do means that they could be supporting Donald Trump. Knowing the hostility towards Trump from many of the leftist vegans this is a delicious irony.

This is a fabulous article by Mr Lewis-Stempel and one well worth reading as it uncovers the stupidity and hypocrisy of these vegan militants. Vegan products especially dairy alternatives have their small place in the food supply chain. They can be beneficial to those who for medical reasons cannot digest dairy milk of any sort and for people like me who for religious reasons cannot mix milk and meat products together. For me soya milk allows me to make a religiously compliant Yorkshire Pudding but I recognise that this market of these alt milk products when used for these reasons is pretty tiny which is as it should be bearing in mind the environmental and other damages that come from producing many of the alt milks.

4 Comments on "From Elsewhere: When vegan products are not good for the environment or for people."

  1. I am totally disadvantaged here, the CO here otherwise known as the wife hates almonds and won’t have almond products in the house. There must be grounds for a claim of some sort in this situation mustn’t there?

    • Fahrenheit211 | November 5, 2022 at 7:35 pm |

      I’m in a similar situation. I’ve recently got a hankering for pickled onions but my wife can’t stand them so it looks like I will be forced to get my chips and pickled onion from the chippy and eat them far enough away from her presence for it not to matter, oh and shower and decontaminate myself before she gets in after I’ve been eating pickled onions.

  2. ‘As a vegan’ I do agree with your objections to the wastage. On a foodie level, just because something is white and liquid does not mean that it is a tasty substitute for milk: for those seeking a substitute (occasional or otherwise) and value the slightly sweet taste of milk, I can recommend Rice Dream Original, which I find actually pleasant (unlike almond milk, Oatly or soya milk).

    • Fahrenheit211 | November 5, 2022 at 7:33 pm |

      The wastage is horrendous if what this farmer is saying is correct. As someone who has picked fruit as a teenager for a jam factory I saw that some of the nicest fruit they produced often took the biggest input in terms of water and other materials to get a usable crop. As someone who keeps Kosher and who lives and extraordinary distance from any Kosher shops (100 – 150 miles so it’s not exactly round the corner) some of the veggie / vegan alternatives such as burgers and sausages are an absolute boon, especially as with veggie sausages I can mix them with haloumi cheese which I can’t do with a beef, lamb or chicken sausage. Most veggies / vegans I’ve met in my day to day life are not the political ones like we see as part of the Milk Pour lot and just get on with their lives and don’t bother anyone else.

      I’m with you on your description of somethign being white and liquid doesn’t always make a good milk substitute. I struggled for months to find a non dairy substitute for milk for making Yorkshire Puddings and found tht the alpro soya worked the best and it is available in small 125ml/250ml packs which means that I’ve enough for a YP but with no wastage. I might try the Rice Dream in YP’s just to see how it works.

      Edit. To add. I know that being vegan you will not be interested in the recipe below as it is very fishy but others might like it. I like to experiment in the kitchen and I especially like to ‘Kosherise’ recipes which is to take recipes that use non kosher ingredients and adapt them to make them kosher by substituting the stuff I can eat for the stuff that I can’t eat. Here’s my take on Chinese Prawn Toast

      https://www.fahrenheit211.net/2016/05/27/recipe-time-i-cant-believe-its-not-treyf-making-kosher-facsimiles-of-distinctly-unkosher-foods-number-one-fake-prawn-toast/

      I’ve also managed to make a pretty good facsimile of Chicken Saag Aloo which was pretty easy as all I had to do was follow a basic Saag Aloo recipe and use vegetable oil instead of ghee (which is not allowed with meat)

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