‘Never mind the quality, feel the width of the lies’ could be a slogan that might well be used by the Muslim community of Waltham Forest in North East London. Following the appalling Islamic attacks in France and the ongoing threat emanating from the ideology of Islam, the Muslims of Waltham Forest are doing their very best to say ‘it’s nothing to do with Islam, honestly guv’nor’. Unfortunately for the Muslim community of Waltham Forest, the threats and the violence and the terror are everything to do with Islam. The Muslim establishment of Waltham Forest may well be cranking up the lie machine to ’11’ but there appear to be a growing number of people who are seeing through those lies.
According to local newspapers in the area, the Muslims there have been going full tilt with the ‘nothing to do with Islam’ line with mosque open days, smiling Imams and all the rest of the panoply of dishonest BS that we see coming from Muslims when their ideology has been revealed as a nightmarish death cult. So far so normal. Muslims lie about their beliefs to non-Muslims, it’s what they do.
What is unusual about these three stories from the Waltham Forest Guardian is the level of informed criticism of Islam that has appeared on this newspaper’s comment pages. It’s even more unusual to see that a local paper allow comments about Islam, especially comments that are plainly critical of Islam. Is this a sign of an outbreak of free speech in local newspapers where Islam is concerned, we can but hope? However, just in case this free speech about Islam example is just an oversight by normally censorious newspaper staff and not a welcome change in editorial policy, I have saved all the comments from the three newspaper articles as three (very long) appendices which are pasted at the bottom of this piece.
Another thing that is interesting about these few stories is what happens when one indulges in a bit of digging about the Islamic organisations involved in what looks like a co-ordinated ‘Waltham Forest Taqiyya Fest’. What has turned up is that not only are these Islamic organisations behaving dishonestly with how they are trying to sell Islam to non-Muslims, but that several of the Muslim organisations mentioned, are shall we say not exactly ‘on the side of the angels’ when it comes to the issue of extremism.
For example: The Masjid e Umer mosque, mentioned in the first of the three articles, may well be full of peaceful people, but they do seem to have been using their Facebook page to encourage Muslims to lobby the MP Stella Creasy against military action in Syria. Bearing in mind that Ms Creasy and her staff were subjected to what she described as serious abuse and verbal threat, from those trying to persuade her to vote against military action, it does make one wonder what part this mosque and those who attend it and support it played in some of the threatening actions aimed at Ms Creasy?
Here’s part of the first article from the Waltham Forest Guardian dated 26th November 2015 about a then forthcoming open day at the Masjid e Umer mosque. It’s the usual round of stuff about how violence is ‘nothing to do with Islam’ and that their prophet was not really a paedophile war-lord with very few redeeming features. As is usual policy for this blog, the quotation is in italics, with my comments in plain text.
A MOSQUE is set to throw its doors open to the community to show its neighbours the ‘true Islam’.
The Masjid E Umer Trust is extending an open invitation to the people of Waltham Forest to attend their place of worship in Walthamstow and discuss the challenges facing the community.
This Sunday, from 1pm – 7pm, the mosque in Queens Road will be open to visitors of all ages and religions.
Muslim people from the borough will be on hand to answer questions about the building, prayer, Islam and what it means for them.
There will also be exhibitions, artefacts, and manuscripts out for people to see.
And now the second article published on 17th November 2015 and is a glowing article (verging on being a ‘puff piece’) about a local Imam Yusef Hansa of the Noor ul Islam Trust based in Leyton, who has condemned the Paris terror attacks. Yet again you may notice that we’ve got Mr Hansa peddling the outrageous lie that Islam is a religion of peace and that there is nothing in Islam that encourages or supports violence. Mr Hansa even had the gall to say that the violence of the Paris massacre was ‘outside the boundaries’ of Islam – Are you sure of that Mr Hansa? What about the 109 verses that could be said to encourage violence in the Koran? Do these suddenly ‘not exist’ when it comes to trying to convince the Kufar that Islam is not a violent death cult?
Here’s the Waltham Forest Guardian article of 17th November.
MORE Muslim leaders from around Waltham Forest have called for peace in the wake of global terror attacks.
Representatives at the Noor Ul Islam Trust have spoken out to condemn the attacks by ISIS, last week.
Yusuf Hansa, Chairman of Noor Ul Islam said the attacks are horrific and “go against the teachings of Islam”.
Mr Hansa said worshippers at the mosque were “deeply upset” on hearing of attacks in Beirut and Baghdad last week.
He said the upset turned into disgust when reports of the terrorist attacks in Paris came on Friday (November 13).
Mr Hansa said: “We condemn this violence in the strongest possible terms.
“My thoughts and prayers for the families of those killed and injured in these recent attacks, especially for those in France. Parisians are our neighbours and Islam teaches us to be especially good to our neighbours.
“The thoughts and well-wishes of those of Noor Ul Islam go out to those affected by these acts of terrorism. These attacks bear no resemblance to the teachings of Islam.
“The whole community should do everything possible to ensure that justice and peace prevails.”
On the subject of the Noor Ul Islam Trust, it didn’t take much digging to find an example of this group’s questionable behaviour. An admittedly cursory search for Noor ul Islam and the word ‘extremism’ threw up the interesting snippet that this mosque had given money in January 2009 to Gaza via an Islamic charity, Muslim Aid. Muslim Aid has been investigated by the Charity Commission, although not for activities concerning terror in Syria, but for ‘irregularities’ in their overseas offices. However, according to an article in the Daily Telegraph dated 29/11/2014 the journalist Andrew Gilligan said: “Muslim Aid has admitted funding organisations closely linked to the banned terror groups Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad and is itself banned in Israel as a funder of terrorism. It is closely linked to the extremist Islamic Forum of Europe, which wants to create a sharia state in Europe.“ It needs to be noted at this point that Islamic Forum Europe is itself linked to the South Asian theocratic fascist organisation Jamaat e Islaami, an organisation that also has a lot of influence in the large and very extreme East London Mosque in Whitechapel. What we have here is an alleged ‘Islamic man of peace’, Mr Hansa, whose mosque is giving money to an organisation that has historical links with Hamas, the genocidal Islamofascist organisation in Gaza. The Noor Ul Islam Trust is yet another ‘clean hands’ Islamic organisation that readily shows up its bloodstains when you start to dig into their activities.
The third article from the local Guardian newspaper for the area is the earliest in this chronology of unadulterated Islamic dishonesty.
The Waltham Forest Guardian said on the 16th November 2015:
“LEADERS of mosques across Waltham Forest have spoken out to condemn the killing of at least 129 people in Paris, on Friday.
Waltham Forest Islamic Association (WFIA) has released a statement calling for peace, condemning the acts of the ISIS extremists, following the coordinated terror attacks.
Eight gunmen and suicide bombers shot and killed innocent people as they enjoyed their Friday evening across the city at cafes, the Stade de France and the the Bataclan concert hall.
In a statement WFIA said the condemn the acts of terror.
They said: “WIFA is horrified to learn of the abhorrent and inhumane acts of terror perpetrated against the people of Paris.
“We unequivocally condemn this act of terrorism and vehemently oppose any ones attempt at associating this heinous act with the true teachings of Islam.
“Our heartfelt sympathies are with the families affected and we offer our condolences to the families of the bereaved victims.”
Oh dear! Again we see more dishonesty from the followers of the ‘religion of blowing people to pieces’. Many people would look at Islamic scripture and then look at Islamic terror and see a deep and lasting connection between the two. It’s not only the dishonesty of Waltham Forest Muslim Association that we need to be concerned about, but also about Waltham Forest Muslim Association’s chequered history. The Jamia Mosque, situated right next door to the address of the WFMA, has been criticised for offending Christians and being a mailing address for the now banned Al Mujhiroun and for the Islam for Europe organisation, an entity connected to one Anjem Choudhary. Although the WFMA has come over all coy about extremist groups and back in 2010 denied that, despite the Jamia mosque being a mailing address for the Islam for Europe group, the WFMA had anything to do with them; that should not get them off the hook. Esmerelda Weatherwax a pseudonymous writer for the New English Review, has said that the Jamia Mosque has been a major force in anti-democracy and pro-sharia propaganda and agitation for many years. Again we have a Muslim organisation which speaks words of peace but still leaves many questions about exactly how peaceful this Islamic group really is.
What these three stories illustrate are the lengths that Islamic groups and others will go to, to promote Islam and protect it; even to the point of telling outright lies about Islamic theology. If Muslims were honest and admitted that there is an issue with contemporaneous violence in the Koran and that Muhammed’s life, as detailed in the Hadith, pose problems for modern society, then there would be some grounds for calling for mutual respect between Muslims and non-Muslims. The problem is they cannot do this; they cannot be honest about theology or about the nature and conduct of Mohammed, they can only lie and say that ‘Islam is a religion of peace’ and that Mohammed was the perfect man, that is if your idea of a perfect man is a paedophile who slaughtered people en masse and committed genocide. Jews and Christians have the ability to examine their holy books and say ‘Moses wasn’t perfect’ or ‘the followers of Jesus were not perfect’ and most importantly can prove that the violence that is present in the Tanakh/Old Testament is a record of historical violence and not encouragement for violence in the here and now, which is the case with the Koran and the Hadith.
Having seen the dishonest performances displayed in these Guardian articles by Waltham Forest’s Muslim organisations, I must say that the best thing we can do with their protestations of innocence and that Islam being a religion of peace would be to file them in the round floor-mounted filing cabinet. Because that’s about all their statements of condolences are really worth.
Original stories from Waltham Forest Guardian editions
New English Review article on the Islamisation of Waltham Forest
Mosque leaders in Walthamstow try to distance themselves from Islam 4 Europe and Anjem Choudary
Information about the 109 verses of violence in the Koran
Charity funded by a Waltham Forest mosque have links to terror.
Masjid e Umer mosque and their encouragement for their members to lobby the MP Stella Creasy.
Information relating to a January 2009 gift of £7000 by the Noor Ul Islam mosque in Waltham Forest to Muslim Aid for Gaza (I wonder how much of that money ended up in the pockets of Hamas?)
The East London mosque and terror promotion
It is highly unusual in my experence to see local newspapers in areas like Waltham Forest and Redbridge for example, that are in the process of Islamising, to allow any sort of freedom of speech at all in their comment sections when it comes to the issue of Islam. Therefore I’m publishing the comments made about Islam that appeared underneath the articles that I have quoted from above, just in case the comments drop down the newspaper’s ‘memory hole’. As you can see there are some critics of Islam who are very well informed indeed about Islam’s true nature and are not afraid to say so and they put up quite a good fight against the Taqiyya artists, Lefties and others who say ‘Islam is a religion of peace’..
Appendix i Comments from 26th November 2015 issue of newspaper
Mosque leaders call for peace as they condemn ISIS attacks in Paris
Appendix ii 17th November 2015
Perhaps he could organise a borough march against the attacks in France on a similar scale as would occur if someone drew some offensive cartoons? This would show solidarity with those who are not Muslim and provide substantial reassurance that most Muslims were agains these terrorist acts of murder and destruction.
Appendix iii 16th November 2015
myopinioncounts 12:05pm Thu 26 Nov 15
How open is this event to be? A female friend living close to this mosque went to a similar open day some time ago and was only allowed into the “female” areas! Segregation was in force.