An interesting snippet of information has been sent to me by one of my contacts in the county of Herefordshire. It takes the form of an article in the Hereford Times about the resettlement of alleged ‘Syrian’ ‘refugees’ in the county. The Home Office, by which I mean you and I the taxpayer, is having to stump up £540,000 to give to Herefordshire council in order to support the ‘complex needs’ of these alleged ‘Syrian’ ‘refugees’. The Hereford Times played the usual and dishonest I might add, ‘poor children’ line in the story, even though the majority of those posing as ‘Syrian refugees’ are Muslim males of military age, the very last people that any civilised country should take in.
Here’s the Hereford Times story on how ‘Syrian refugees’ (who are just as likely to be bog standard Muslim rapists, criminals and jihadists by the way) are about to be dumped on the county. What is interesting about this story is not the standard ‘vulnerable refugees’ guff from the journalist who wrote the story, Paul Broome, but the comments. The comments (as of 08:00 BST today) are overwhelmingly hostile to the idea of Herefordshire being a dumping ground for these people. One of the commentators also queried why support for vulnerable ‘Syrian refugees’ was being dished out whilst similar services for Britons are being withdrawn to save money. There are of course the odd one or two ‘refugees welcome’ lunatics in the comment thread, but they appear to be in the minority of commentators. It is to be expected that, as is usual with stories that involve immigration or Islam, the comments will suddenly disappear as the editoral staff have a fit of the collective politically correct vapours and shutdown comments. As is usual policy for this blog, the original text of the Hereford Times story is in italics, whereas this blog’s comments are in plain text.
The Hereford Times said:
HEREFORDSHIRE will take in up to 60 Syrian refugees from this September.
People who are going to be affected by this decision have a right to be concerned, especially as we’ve seen the appalling behaviour of these ‘refugees’ elsewhere in Europe. The proportion of criminals, rapists, jihadis and other anti-socials is very high with these ‘refugees’.
The Minister for Syrian Refugees, Richard Harrington, has approved Herefordshire Council‘s offer which will see about 18 families resettle here from the war-torn Middle-Eastern country.
18 sounds like the sort of suspiciously low number pumped out by politicians in order to convince local people that this area will not be swamped by the sort of Islamic invaders who have almost completely destroyed the existing cultures in places like Newham, Tower Hamlets and Waltham Forest in East London, Bradford, Rochdale, Rotherham etc. I doubt that this number will remain at 18. This number is so low as could be reasonably considered as BS. The question has been raised, not just in the comments but elsewhere in other media that just because the Arab nations refuse to take these people do not mean that we in Britain have to. If the Arabs don’t want them for economic and security reasons, what conceivable benefit will they bring to the United Kingdom?
The council’s Cabinet will now meet next Monday (9th) to agree the commissioning of a procurement process to set-up a support service for the refugees once they arrive here.
The two-year service would be provided at a value “not exceeding £540,000”.
this funding will be provided by the Home Office.
The people in the area need to start getting angry about this. Over half a million pounds of taxpayers money is going to be spent, not on the existing residents who are currently labouring under cuts to services, but on those who may not be any good for Britian in the long run. This is plainly unjust. Also we need to look at who we are taking in. Are we taking in the members of the oppressed class of Syrian or are we taking in the oppressor class? I’ve no moral objection to taking Christian refugees, or ex Muslims or other non-Muslims, they are the genuinely oppressed. However, there is the strong likelihood that Britain will be taking in a large number of Muslims who are the oppressor class. To those who naively say ‘how could you turn away a child just because he’s called Mohammed’, then I’d ask them to consider this fact. Little Mohammed’s grow up into big Mohammed’s and we’ve all seen the sort of trouble that the big Mohammed’s are causing all around Europe haven’t we?
In background papers released ahead of the Hereford Shirehall meeting, the council says the refugees coming to Herefordshire will be brought directly from camps and informal settlements around the Syrian borders. To be considered they must meet at least one of the United Nations High Commission for Refugees (UNHCR)’s seven vulnerability criteria.
Who trusts the Government to accurately vet these people properly? I don’t. Also only taking one of the UN criteria makes it all the more likely that people
“This means that people will generally be children and women at risk, survivors of torture or violence, disabled people or those with significant health needs,” the council says.
“They will all come in family groups and children will be around half of the cohort. Approximately 20 per cent or 12 refugees are likely to have complex needs in relation to health, social care or education.
Note the ‘tugging of the heartstrings’ comment here from the council spokesperson. There’s no indication about how much checking is going into the stories that these alleged ‘Syrian refugees’ are telling UK government staff. I do hope that along with the UN criteria these people are being checked for crime and jihad connections, after all ISIS told us they were going to embed jihadists among these ‘refugees’. What’s also pertinent is that these people are going to have to supported by significant amounts of taxpayer cash over a long period if not forever. This does beg the question, if there is taxpayer cash to fund the dumping and support of ‘Syrian refugees’ on Herefordshire, why isn’t their taxpayer case to fund stuff that those who pay taxes in the county actually want? As one commentator, Randombloke, said to the newspaper:
At least 20 % will have complex needs..
Is this the same complex needs that are being withdrawn from our own people who have lived here all their lives and paid taxes at some time or other…
Isnt it great how they can find housing and social needs for anyone but our own…
Plus what happens after 2 years when the governments money stops..does the help and social care stop to..or do we have to subsides these people for the rest of their lives as again our own people get turned away and left to suffer on the streets..
What a shocking way to treat your own people..
Tou do gooder tree hugging lefties should hang your heads in shame..
Some very good points there Mr Randombloke. Why is money always avalable for foreign freeloaders and the targets of middle class Leftie virtue signalling but never it seems to help our own people?
“As far as possible, the Home Office will match people from rural parts of Syria to areas like Herefordshire. This may mean that a smaller proportion of refugees can speak English as this appears to be less common in rural areas.”
The needs of refugee families are expected to be varied with the authority promising to work with voluntary, community and faith organisations to finalise the sort of support services required.
The service will help the refugees find basic household equipment, access benefits, attend language classes for adults, and help registering with a GP and dentist, among other services.
More spending, more taxpayer cash down the drain on things like language tuition and bumping these ‘refugees’ up the lists for things like housing etc. It’s yet more unncessary pressure on the health, housing and the social and care services. In time, as has happened in a multitude of areas where followers of Islam have been settled, there will no doubt be other costs such policing the crime that they commit or dealing with the effects of misogynistic Islamic male sexuality.
The government has established a Syrian vulnerable persons’ resettlement programme to take 20,000 people from Syria and its borders over a five year period to enable them to settle in the UK.
We should take none at all. That would be the safer option for all of us. But, if we are to take any at all, then it should only be the Christians or the atheists or other similar people oppressed by Islam. What we should not be taking in are anymore of the followers of Islam. Britain has enough problems as it is with the followers of that accursed ideology called Islam. This including not only general property crime, violent crime and jihad, but also encompasses such horrors as the mass rape of thousands of British girls by Islamic Grooming Gangs in places like Rotherham, Rochdale, Oxford, Newcastle, Halifax etc.
It’s right to feel compassionate for others but that feeling of compassion should not override the need to keep our country, and our communities, secure from the depredations of Islam. I predict that no good will come of this and similar decisions that are led by emotions instead of basing these decisions considerations of practicality and long term security. These people should have been helped closer to where they originated from and not brought here where they will eat up resources like no tomorrow and probably end up being even more of a problem as time goes by.
Good luck with your ‘Syrian’ jihadist, rapists, criminals and ponces, Herefordshire, you are going to need it.
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Original story from Hereford Times
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griffo710:57am Wed 4 May 16
We have problems housing our own homeless people and we should be addressing that first in my view.
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Herefordwildman11:06am Wed 4 May 16
Charity starts at home
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randandco@yahoo.co.uk11:31am Wed 4 May 16
I agree with Herefordwildman, look after our own first !
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Herefordian0712:22pm Wed 4 May 16
Much as feel sorry for the plight of these people they would do better to stay and fight for their country rather than flee, we as a nation have had to do this time and time again. The council have cut services to the weak and vulnerable in this county and yet is able to magic up £540K for these non nationals, it beggars belief especially when the Canadian wife of a British national has been treated so badly for several years and recently allowed to stop for ten years, what is wrong with this picture? Governmental incompetence that’s what!
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Moreteavicar? Herefordian0712:54pm Wed 4 May 16
What part of “This funding will be provided by the Home Office.” was too difficult for you to understand?
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Herefordian07 Moreteavicar?1:00pm Wed 4 May 16
Whilst the money might come from the Home Office you miss my point, it is still taxes that we nationals have paid to our council/government so which ever pot it comes from, why hasn’t the council Magiced up £540K for Herefordians? That isn’t too difficult to understand is it either?
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Moreteavicar? Herefordian071:25pm Wed 4 May 16
Ahh. sorry. When you said “the council”, I didn’t realise you meant “the government”. That must be why I “missed your point”. I await you equally obtuse response when I make my point, which you seem to be unwilling or incapable of grasping, that you are incorrect in stating “the council Magiced up £540K”. They didn’t. Please let’s try not to get bogged down in semantics and let’s respond accurately and rationally.
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b.hog1 Moreteavicar?1:04pm Wed 4 May 16
Well that’s put my mind at rest, as long as the home office are footing the bill and not the tax payer then I’m happy. Out of interest who funds the Home Office?
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Moreteavicar? b.hog11:16pm Wed 4 May 16
I never contended that the tax payer ultimately foots the bill. Funnily enough, I am intelligent enough not to be unaware of that. I was responding to the point that “The council have cut services to the weak and vulnerable in this county”, when in fact. this money is not designated by “the council”.
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b.hog1 Moreteavicar?1:29pm Wed 4 May 16
Thank-you for admitting your error and backing up my point.
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Moreteavicar? b.hog11:40pm Wed 4 May 16
And that error would be ……
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jackjonesatwork Moreteavicar?3:12pm Wed 4 May 16
In the case of b.hog1 his error would be no I can’t say it – just too unkind I will think it instead
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Herefordboy12:46pm Wed 4 May 16
I agree with all the above. Lets not forget that in Denmark the vast majority of “children” when tested were over 18 and a lot of these people are not refugees but migrants after a better life at the expense of the native population
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cobbled together Herefordboy1:50pm Wed 4 May 16
Ah yes.
It’s so easy to pass as an adult, when you’re all of two feet tall.
Have some compassion. Out of the millions of Syrians who have been displaced by this war, we are only taking a handful of refugees in this county.
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Herefordboy cobbled together3:49pm Wed 4 May 16
Millions have been displaced to a place of safety, ie Turkey ,Jordan etc,but thay are not happy there.They want to come to the West. This makes them migrants,not refugees.Also where are Saudi Arabia,UAE and other Muslim countries.Noticible by their lack of aid to fellow Muslims.
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frankiechap98 Herefordboy4:02pm Wed 4 May 16
Turkey isn’t safe, neither is Jordan. Don’t you follow the news? Lack of assistance from other Arab nations doesn’t mean we should sit on our hands does it? What difference does a person’s religion make? I wonder if you would feel as comfortable suggesting they should go elsewhere, if they were Jewish.
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cobbled together frankiechap984:21pm Wed 4 May 16
I can only imagine that the boy is in school for the lunchtime news, doing homework during the six o’clock news, and safely tucked up in bed for the ten o’clock news. Let’s hope he doesn’t have nightmares about all those two foot tall adults who are trying to sneak in.
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yokelyokel3:46pm Wed 4 May 16
I’m glad to see some progress in helping these people – albeit a tiny number in the overall context. However what concerns me is the phrase
“agree the commissioning of a procurement process to set-up a support service for the refugees”
Our council doesn’t have a great track record in negotiating contracts and I hope the half a million available isn’t mostly taken as profit by a contractor like G4S in return for the cheapest housing available. Will there be a named council person responsible for the effective spending of the money for what is intended?
Accommodation shouldn’t be based on cheapness but on access to education, health facilities, specialists to tackle the damage done to the children’s development, buses, and to other families in the same situation.
If we are to do this, we should do it properly. If Syria is to ever become stable and safe they would probably go home and the UK will have a good reputation there.
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Herefordboy yokelyokel3:55pm Wed 4 May 16
“If Syria is to ever become stable and safe they would probably go home ” Do you seriously believe this?
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yokelyokel Herefordboy4:17pm Wed 4 May 16
I take your point, but these families are being taken from refugee camps close to the Syria border to where they fled to avoid being killed. The fact that they are waiting on the border suggests they intended to return when it was safe. Many of them will have houses, some land, family and cultural roots in Syria and these may prove to be more of an attraction than even Hereford’s gold paved streets; if peace should ever happen there. They will also be entering the UK under controlled circumstances. The authorities will know their details, locations etc because screening will be done in the Syrian border camps in Jordan, Lebanon etc.
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RogerLFC3:48pm Wed 4 May 16
Over the last 4 years The Council has had to make £33M savings as the Govt. has slashed the large direct grant it used to subsidise it with. An extra £34M has to be saved over the next 3 years. So The Council is, in effect, just getting a fraction of that grant back and instead of it being used County wide it has to target the whole £540K at a group of Syrians. And don’t think for one moment that the money will be sufficient to meet the complex needs of 60 fish out water people parachuted into the Shire. As a comparison it cost £595K to run the office of the Police Crime Commissioner for one year up to March 2015.
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Randombloke10:13pm Wed 4 May 16
At least 20 % will have complex needs..
Is this the same complex needs that are being withdrawn from our own people who have lived here all their lives and paid taxes at some time or other…
Isnt it great how they can find housing and social needs for anyone but our own…
Plus what happens after 2 years when the governments money stops..does the help and social care stop to..or do we have to subsides these people for the rest of their lives as again our own people get turned away and left to suffer on the streets..
What a shocking way to treat your own people..
Tou do gooder tree hugging lefties should hang your heads in shame..
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RogerLFC11:29pm Wed 4 May 16
Interpreting services is where the money is! In fact this article from the Shropshire Star revealed that West Mercia spent £1.1 Million on translation over 3 years …. Article dated Nov. 2015 http://www.shropshir
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