As some on here may know I’m not too enamoured about the idea of a mosque hitting this city. Having lived in Islamic areas in the UK I’m glad not to be living in one any more. Not I might add because I disliked any particular individuals, there’s good and bad in everyone, but because the ideology of Islam is, until it reforms, a threat to the western way of life and a threat closer to home.
Last week the local newspaper, the Hereford Times, broke the story of a Mosque for Hereford and quite rightly in my mind allowed people to comment on the story which caused a lively debate with good and bad contributions from both sides. However, this week the debate appears to have disappeared from the Hereford Times website.
What is worrying is that a well informed and lively debate has been replaced with a puff piece by Zac Pandor from the Hereford Muslim Community. I wonder just how and why the Hereford Times has been leant on to pull the previous story comments?
I’d be interested if someone from the HT could comment on why the thread was pulled. Was it a libel law issue? Did someone play the race card in the form of a complaint? Fiscal pressure? Local authority leaning? I don’t know about these but what I do now know about the HT is that I trust it less now for pulling the thread.
If the HT has pulled the thread for political correctness reasons then shame on them.
There are concerns about this mosque and islamic association in Hereford. Genuine concerns. Have a look at their site and see if you have similar concerns http://www.herefordmasjid.com/#/about-us/4558827442
First off. this is most definitely an outreach centre that will promote Islam to non believers and therefore not just a meeting place for those who just happen to be muslim. The even have a dedicated ‘Dawa’ (evangelism) team. Do you want your children to be evangelised without your consent at school by any religion, let alone Islam? Also what about the rights of those ex muslims in Hereford the Dawa lot are going to put pressure on them first.
Secondly, what exactly is going to be on sale in the bookshop? Saudi hate publications are sadly all too common in both UK and US mosques. See this report from the Centre for Religious Freedom ( http://crf.hudson.org/files/publications/SaudiPropoganda.pdf ). Do we really need in Hereford our own spigot of hatred in the form of Saudi/Wahabbi/Salafist etc literature being sold and loaned on our doorstep. We wouldn’t accept Mein Kampf being promoted strongly and openly so why tolerate the promotion of hatred when it comes in a religiously inspired form?
Thirdly they have what is called an ‘Islamic Judiciary Board’. I think to me and to many others that says Sharia court. Do we really want or need something like that? (if they behaved in a similar way to Church courts and Jewish Beit Din then I wouldn’t have an issue but there is the danger of sharia-creep with civil law taking on board aspects of islamic sharia law which is incompatible with a modern state of equal humans which is why any normalisation of sharia in western law should be resisted)
Are any of the above a ‘benefit’ to the people of Hereford? Because they sure as anything haven’t been a benefit to the people of, say Luton.
If people want to believe that a 7th century warlord was a prophet or have a religion based around a day off, or believe a bloke can advance from carpenter to deity without going to college then fair do’s, provided that they do it in ways that doesn’t frighten the horses.
Sadly Islam does frighten the horses, for very good reasons, and there is nothing to be gained by hushing up genuine concerns about Islam or any other expansionist religious group. Sometimes boils have to be lanced.
Before I go a quick message to the South Wye Councillor Chris Chappell: You said in the HT ““With the ever-expanding growth of Herefordshire, we need to be able to welcome people from all across the world whatever their faith, or no faith.””
Why do we need to welcome people from across the world? What’s in it for us?
And as for the local diversity rent seeker
“Meanwhile, Neville Meredith, community integration and race equality development officer with Herefordshire Council , said: “When people hear the word mosque, they immediately picture some great stone building, but as far as I understand this building will be a small, non-intrusive building in keeping with Herefordshire’s aesthetic”
Why does the phrase ‘forked tongue’ come to mind here. Remember we pay this guy Neville Meredith’s wages. The problem is too many mosques are intrusive buildings to many people and it’s been noticed but it’s what’s being promoted inside mosques that gives many people the willies.
(Note no open comments this week. Strange that innit). It seems to be a situation where the criticisms of the mosque in the paper have just disappeared. What next, will the actual critics of the mosque disappear?