At last the Girlguides is finally adhering to both the law and common sense by excluding boys who suffer from the delusion that they are girls. Such boys should never have been admitted to the Girlguides in the first place because primarily such children are not girls and never ever will be and secondly this sort of mental derangement that causes someone to believe that they are of the opposite sex may pose a danger to girls.
This is a decision that is long overdue and one that should never have been needed to be taken had not the Girlguides not decided to become captured by the Cult of Trans and allow into their organisation boys with the delusion that they are girls. At the first raising of the question or suggestion of so called ‘transgender children’ entering the Guides the answer from the Guides should have been a firm ‘no’. They should have refused for the sake of the girls that are in their care and to ensure the safeguarding of these girls.
But why wait until September of this year to for the Guides to finally rid themselves of the deluded boys who may well be making the biological girls uncomfortable? Why let these boys stay over the summer when there will almost certainly be some forms of outdoor or even overnight activities during the school holidays. Allowing these deluded boys to remain in the Guides until September only prolongs the agony for the girls who have to share facilities with them.
The Guides are really really dragging their feet with complying with last year’s Supreme Court judgement that it is biology not the highly contentious and subjective ‘feelings’ or a self declaration of an individual that determines who or who is not a woman or a man. This organisation should have complied with the legal judgement as soon as it occurred and not drag things out or put the ideology of Trans above all else. Better still it should never have allowed boys to join in the first place.
I wonder if this decision by the Guides to delay and obfuscate about the decision of the Supreme Court may have anything to do with the amount of men posing as women, some of questionable behaviour, who are in positions of influence or authority within the Guides movement? It’s quite possible that shouty, aggressive and manipulative men in dresses may have all too much influence on the Guides and this is why they’ve dug their heels in over the Supreme Court ruling and are dragging things out to the wire despite it possibly causing problems for the biological girls who are members.
It’s good to have got the deluded boys out of the Girlguides but they should never have been allowed in in the first place. Now the next task for the biological reality activists is going to be getting the trans cultism and trans cultist individuals who may have used Girlguiding to promote their ideology out of the organisation altogether.
I don’t agree with you at all but I shall try to explain. I have been following this apparent gender debate for several years reading opinions from different viewpoints and attempting to weigh up the validities of them all. This is nothing to do with any personal experience or knowledge as I am not trans and I have not met any trans people in real life, but I appear to have an ongoing interest in how discourse operates and how different positions are arrived at and defended in political and social debate.
Regarding the gender issue we have both the desistors and affirmers when serious gender dysphoria presents and I am going to argue that we do not so far have sufficient evidence to justify the predominance of one approach over the other. So, I cannot support the exclusion of trans girls, ‘deluded boys’ as you describe them from the Guides, the Supreme Court decision did not create a blanket ban but rather a framework for future litigation cases with sex defined as biological as opposed to gender identified, the latter allowed in current UK law since the GRA.
I could go on to explain why extreme polarisation is harmful on any issue when there is a still a potential for mutual understanding and compromise, but I won’t for the moment, basically I think we should all be wary of aligning with opposing positions based on biased information from sometimes overly zealous campaigners disregading reliable sources and collective personal experience.
It’s a lonely position on the middle way potentially villified as a traitor by entrenced opinion groups
opposing on different viewpoints, but I live in hope I am not the only one and controversies can be dealt with clearly by using our intellects with objective appraisals of offered evidences, and honourable intentions.
I can understand why you want to be in the middle on certain issues such as this, I also once took a middle way with regards to it. I’ve met some decent and indeed sorted transsexuals who are not any issue to me and it was a matter of ‘live and let live’. However there has arisen a clash of rights with regard to Trans including the clash of rights between women and those who believe that female status is defined by feeling rather than science or biology. If we advance Trans rights we inevitably impinge on the rights of women to have very necessary sex segregated spaces and activities. I couldn’t see any way through this impasse that didn’t negatively affect women. Seeing later on some of the ‘sorted’ TS’s not be cured of their mental ailments by transition started me thinking that maybe this is not the best route for dealing with gender dysphoria? People who were ddepressed and thought their depression was due to gender identity issues carried on being depressed after transition. But for me it’s the behaviour of the rest of the trans movement and especially trans activists that has turned me off from supporting trans in general. There’s the bullying of critics, the targeting of children with science free trans propaganda, the destruction of women’s and men’s spaces including gay men and women’s spaces, the pronoun authoritarianism, the dishonesty of trans advocates, the smashing of safeguarding and the absolute multitude of trans identified men who are to be found in the rolls of sex criminals. All that is hard for me to overlook even though I have known and loved some trans individuals. I grew to realise that the sorted TS’s I knew may well be outliers and not representative of the norm.
As for evidence there’s plenty to show that if left alone and living in accepting environments the vast majority of kids who present with some form of gender dysphoria turn out to be reasonably well balanced Lesbian, Gay or Bisexual people. Also the long term outcomes for those identified as Trans is not good. There’s growing numbers of those who transitioned when quite young who have terrible regrets and even those who transitioned as adults the prognosies re mental health are not good.
We should never have got into this mess in the first place. The moderate in me wonders if a tiny number of trans people could have been accomodated in wider society even if they had to use the disabled loos and not the women’s? However the face that the world of Trans has presented to us makes such a form of accomodation unlikely.
This cult of trans is everywhere, it has become a form of state religion for the public sector and I see and hear horror stories about the public not being treated right by the authorities because they disagree with the idea that sex is mutable. I’ve even come across a police force that has junior officers who are pushing ad hoc ‘street’ diagnosies on troubled kids and labelling them as ‘trans’.
I’d liked to have seen civil debate about all this and evidence but so far much of the evidence, mostly supplied by badly behaved, dishonest, authoritarian and somewhat sinister trans adovates has probably killed any chance of such a debate. It’s time for a reset now, we’ve tried letting ‘trans’ run free in our society and it’s caused enormous problems and maybe it’s time to have some clarity in law and say that biological sex is more important than an individuals subjective ‘feeling’.